New Open Carry Rules and the Rifle In Question?

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1. In his texts to his troon bouyfriend, he mentions the scope was $2,000. Sounds like what someone would put on a rare, custom built rifle, no?

   Check out Heavy Duty Country on the jewtube. He has some footage and speculation of the actual shooter that makes a lot more sense than patsy boy.

   1. This is what happened and thank Crom someone caught all this…Mossad written all over it

      https://rense.com/?En

      1. Did you notice this: is it just me or does the ring on his hand appear to change fingers?

      2. That guy needs to learn that Not Every Word Is A Proper Noun.

         If he’s still pushing the lemon-squeezer pistol hypothesis…that seems like a very difficult firearm to achieve hits on a man-sized target at that distance, especially under the stress of being in public while doing so. Having said that, I’ve never handled nor shot one of those guns so I could be completely wrong and they’re super easy to get hits with.

         1. Stunning Video Demonstration Of A Palm Pistol
            Being Fired And Hitting A ’Neck’ Size Target From
            About 15-20 Feet – You Need To Watch This

            https://rense.com/general98/Palm-Pistol-demo.php

2. What a strange “coincidence” that someone is gone and all of a sudden your money situation is vastly improved. 😉

   Regarding the Charlie Kirk murder, I am convinced that this was a professional hit by the Mossad including a fat distractor to distract while the real sniper on the roof got away. Oh and that distractor George Zinn just happens to be a professional agent provacateur AND has a small hat in his drawer, what a coincidence.
   It’s coming out that Kirk strongly disliked Bibi Nuttyahoo and was recently threatened with “take the silver or the lead” from the small hats. Also what was with the hand signals with Kirk’s security ? Might they have been in on the hit ?
   Finally some witnesses say a man with grey short hair shot Kirk with a hand gun and then ran away.

   I dunno but that dumbass in custody is a patsy. Notice they said they have tight security around him so that he doesn’t come to harm ? He didn’t kill Kirk and watch them do a Jack Ruby on him or he’ll hang himself with paper towels like Epstein supposedly did. This whole thing stinks of BS and a coverup.

   1. You know I worry that it’s been a lifetime since the JFK assassination and coverup and those involved are all dead. It’s a scary thought but maybe the Charlie Kirk murder and coverup is just a dry run for taking out Trump ?
      I hope to God not but there are some evil people in the Deep State.

3. Thot I’d chime in as RSO with member emeritus @ 25 years.
   Granpappy’s rifle with a round stuck in the chamber isn’t going to hurt anyone but yourself.
   The new AR that won’t chamber a live one might be because the shipping flag broke off and lodged
   in the barrel and you didn’t run a rod thru it beforehand.
   Oh yeah, don’t sweep me with a loaded weapon because I am also armed.
   Just my 2 cents why not everybody should open carry because they can…

   1. I “told” you guys in my safety article that RSO’s have their sense of humor removed as a job requirement. I got a lot of safety reinforcement from them. Sweeping one was an excellent way to be banned and kicked out of the gun club, possibly having your firearm confiscated until you were escorted off of the property. And having it returned empty with the ammo in a baggie. Seen it happen to a couple of asswipes.

      Shooter

4. “They” say the 30-06 round hit the top of a “titanium plate” and splattered to cause the fatal wound on Kirk’s left neck……

   Was there a wound on Kirk’s right neck…..?

   Did anyone see any gunshot damage on Kirk’s t-shirt……?

   So many questions……

   1. Titanium trauma plate wouldn’t stop an 06.
      Not sure if it would even deflect it…

      1. True, it’s actually soft metal

5. Lots of weird shit going around.

   Never seen anything in combat but have seen lots of bullets in animals. They can do some weird stuff for sure. Solid core bullet in soft tissue might not do a lot of damage. Would depend a lot of velocity on the bullet and no hit of bones or other hard parts might not deform to bad.

   Whom ever shot Kirk or ordered him shot needs to be shot.

   Rabbit holes all around.

6. Looks to me as if the front ring has moved back almost off the mounting point on the receiver. Could maybe happened if the rings weren’t torqued properly and the rifle was dropped butt first off the roof before patsy boy climbed down. Still too much noise and many questions for those of us who like rational, logical explanations. And I think the jooz realized that after trying to push Charlie to take his 30 shekels and that it would eventually come out, were trying to “get ahead of the story”.

   1. If your rings aren’t tight you shots will miss!
      But as a Patsy that wouldn’t matter.

      1. I’m pretty sure tranny lover, errr, the patsy, did not fire that rifle with the scope in that position. As far back as it is, you would have a deep half moon cut in you shooting eye eyebrow. And head wounds bleed like a mofo.

         I’m drawing a blank on which rifle it was, from the blurry pic, the scope bases do look integral to the barrel. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a 21,000 dollar rich boy toy though, much like you don’t use your collectors edition GTO for a getaway car. There “has” to be a rifle out there somewhere that matches and is cheap enough for a joo to use as a throw down weapon.

         You can handload 30-06 ammo down to pretty slow speeds and use total metal jacket bullets for minimal flesh disruption. Solid copper bullets would work as well. It wasn’t armor spalling, the hole is far too neat and round. I’m still guessing that it was a shot from behind and up by a pro or that the guy in the blue shirt capped him with a FMJ pistol round. Lots of good guesses here but beyond it being a conspiracy, we may never know for sure.

         Shooter

   2. Kyle Serrephin the ex fbi guy,(not a fan) was on Alex Jones the other day analizing the vid of the shooter and other info. He said the same thing regarding the rifle hitting butt end first seemed to cause the scope to be so rearward on the rifle. Made sense to me.

7. Printing: just another of the many benefits of diet and exercise, buddy.

8. On the scope mounting –
   IMHO it’s been dropped on the buttstock before, during, or after said event.
   Scratches on the tube would indicate that, and the forward mount of the day would allow slippage
   should the scope bell contact first…

9. Good work BCE!

   Agreed! The big middle bores like the ‘06 almost always get chunky when the metal hits the meat. Usually there’s lots of momentum imparted to the target as well – as it was in the JFK assassination. Either you or one of the other mil bloggers speculated that the round used *might* be a subsonic .300 Blackout. Plausible but unlikely, IMHO … you can easily hear the gun’s report on the vids. And 200 yards? For the Blackout? Certainly not impossible; but that slug will almost certainly be “lobbing” at that distance. It is fair to say the Blackout is at the extreme edge of its performance envelope at that distance, isn’t it? So far as I know they didn’t recover the bullet – so I dunno how much faith I have in the “fact” that the killer was even using an ‘06.

   I need you or the other gunnies to check this for me – but also missing from the equation is the alleged mechanics of the shot. Consider: precision 200 yard shots are a challenging proposition for the vast majority of shooters. I dunno about you, but I’d be hard pressed to make that shot without a sling. Leave your ego at the door, men – I don’t know ANYONE that could make that shot without a sling or some kind of very solid rest.

   Consider also: the mental duress of making that shot. Our alleged shooter had a train wreck for a personal life. Making a shot like that, under extreme pressure and duress…? Phew! Something stinks to high heaven! I suppose a guy like us *could* make a sure shot under such conditions, but it would take noticeable amounts of range time and ammo to train for it. You’d have to be on the range, all the time to acquire and maintain the proficiency to assure a decisive kill shot like that. I am calling bullshit too. Someone would have noticed.

   The Feebs are no longer trustworthy at all. In the Trump shooting – the info was hushed up, the perp was white washed and cremated within 24 hours, and all discrepancies were memory holed. Now we have all kinds of convenient data and assurances and many of those are fraught with inconsistencies as well. Likely as not – the Feebs are strong suspects as accessories to the crime. We will probably never know what really happened.

   1. To correct some misconceptions concerning .300 Blackout, it is pretty much equivalent to an AK 7.62×39 in energy, has much better bullets available and comes in brass cased ammo. Match grade .300 BO from a good AR is easily sub MOA. And even subsonic goes bang with no can attached. It’s just more stable as it doesn’t break the sound barrier in normal temperatures. A 200 yard shot into 1.5 inches is very doable.

      The shooter was laying on a roof, probably with sand bag rests for the rifle. A pro would have no problem at all with that shot. And I still maintain that the patsy was NOT the shooter. Hell, under those conditions, I’d have a one in three chance of making that shot with my AK, I’d just get caught trying to ex-fil cause I’m old and stove up.

      Hope this clears some things up.

      Shooter

      1. Thanks, S. Off the bags…everyone is an expert. Then it’s an easy shot. As you note though… most of these idiot shooters don’t look or sound like the types to go to the club, carefully establish a mechanical zero and then start squeezing off precision shots from established shooting positions. That goof that shot at Blumpf had an even easier shot and blew it.

         Whaddya think about Tiny’s disagreement with the scope on the gun? I just looked at mine out of curiosity and my scopes are set far back too. And I’ve seen scope mounts like that at the club. They’re not common… but they are around.

         No doubt, we are running after the stick they’ve thrown for us, happily barking like hounds. It’s a diversion as far as I’m concerned. I think this was a message for Trump. Charlie was becoming adversarial to his big jewish donors and the carrot wasn’t working anymore… so he got the stick. Now li’l Ben Shapiro gets the carrot. The message, if I am correct – is for Blumpf to get the little people from developing antisemitic sentiments… or he’s next.

         1. Forget everything I’ve said about a rifle being used. rense.com. Brown shirt smiling asshole with an old timey palm pistol in .32 Rimfire short. He didn’t need to aim. Go watch some Cowboy Action videos if you don’t believe me. They can shoot quarters out of the air without aiming. Go to rense.com and look at Charlie Kirk Murder Weapon Revealed.

            Shooter

10. Welcome to open carry, my Gulf Coast neighbor to the east. I too, have a problem with printing, but because of the inverse….I’m a skinny ass. But I never worried about it because open carry in Bama has been cool for quite awhile. So congrats on one less headache in your EDC needs. Cheers!!

11. Via DuckAI……

    “In most states, it is illegal to have a loaded rifle in a vehicle unless you have a specific license and the firearm is secured in a locked container. Always check your local laws for specific regulations regarding firearms in vehicles.”

    “In Florida, you can legally keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle, but it must be securely encased or not readily accessible. It’s important to follow all relevant laws and regulations regarding firearm possession and transport.”

    “In Georgia, it is generally legal for a lawful weapons carrier to transport a loaded rifle in a motor vehicle, as long as it is not in a restricted area and complies with any applicable laws. However, it’s important to ensure that the firearm is stored safely and out of sight when necessary.”

12. Good on ya’ for open carry. As you probably already know that here in the Hampster, both open and concealed carry are license free. There are LOTS of folks walking around open carrying.

    1. They are license-free everywhere in the United States.

       We just don’t love freedoms enough.

       1. Do you carry? If so, did you ask “Mother, may I”? I’m betting that you don’t love freedom enough to carry without a license in a state that requires one.

          1. You’d be betting wrong, Doc.

             I don’t throw shit out there if I’m not willing to do it myself. I’ve carried “illegally” all over places like California, New York, Illinois, etc.

13. Check out the videos linked in the text at the link.

    https://www.the-nines.net/2025/09/spoiler-alert.html

    Something the equivalent of a miniature crossbow? Spring powered? Gas powered?

    Completely agree with your take on no splatter. Also, projectiles tend to glance off bone. A straight line running through the entrance and exit wounds may not point directly at the start point.

    1. That would be a very specialized weapon. Trannyfa wouldn’t have access to that.
       Deep State lefty or DaJooz. The real question is who benefits most from a civil conflict between left and right?

14. I went down this rabbithole earlier today.
    Shit was right to left not front to back.
    I’ll go back to lurking. Godspeed sir.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/georgewebb/p/earshot-the-charlie-kirk-murder?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=f6lo5

    1. Holy Hells!

       1. Evil White Guy has this as well:
          https://magaville.wordpress.com/2025/09/17/the-charlie-kirk-ambush/

          My big question is why was the crime scene dismantled so quickly? Nothing about this passes the smell test.

    2. Shot, not sh*t. Dern autocorrect. Apologies.

15. That rifle is quite screwed-up and that’s no $2K scope

16. So far all seen surveillance footage does not show a long gun of any type being carried. Supposed rifle if a break down would have a two piece stock for starters, that one doesn’t, or a much shorter forearm. All changeable barrels I have ever seen have some sort of interrupted thread and as that looks like a small ring Mauser, my machining background says to me that there is not enough metal on the receiver for that to work and be accurate in an full sized rifle caliber. Not a smith but just observant and knowledge enough to throw in my 2 cents.

17. I’m hearing chatter it was a .270 based on exit ballistics visible in the vid. Certainly wasn’t JHP!
    More importantly, how did the shooter get behind him if his tent was backed up to a building?

18. So I’ve only ever shot 1 deer and 3 hogs with a .30-06, and I remember the exit wounds on the deer and one of the boars, but I don’t recall seeing any pink mist or meat chunks. I’ve seen it on a headshot and a chest cavity through-and-through with a .300 into a coyote, though.
    But then again, neck shot. I have no idea what that would do, as to whether cartilage, an air gap, and tendon would dissipate the hydrostatic shock.

    1. Seems like spray would only be noticeable when close up, but wuudo I know?

19. Interesting take from Larry Johnson indicating the shot was from the front.
    https://sonar21.com/debunking-a-false-claim-about-the-shot-that-killed-charlie-kirk/

20. Saw a post on 4chan yesterday where it was claimed the kill shot came from a .22 mounted in the camera above and behind him.

    fwiw.

21. I haven’t heard anything about them finding the bullet, nor even searching for it. Maybe I’ve watched too many TV shows, but would it really be that difficult to determine where it ended up, at least within a few square yards, given that the firing position is known, therefore the trajectory is known, and there was no one else hit after Charlie. Did it end its travel in a piece of equipment, in the ground? Thoughts?

22. This might explain why there was no “red mist”:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6zPjo5Vogc

    It is a well done run down from someone that is familiar with the type of body armor CK was wearing at the time.

    -JD

23. Concealment is a lot easier when you wear suits/sport coats all the time like me. IWB or a shoulder rig, and and I can completely conceal a G17. I’ve got enough height (5’15”) and enough barrel chest to eat the barrel length horizontal or vertical.
    Kinda surprised you haven’t adopted the “shoot me first” vest. I’ll wear one hiking, because damned if it isn’t nice to have all the pockets. I don’t even bother with a backpack, because the vest holds all I need (plus a camelback.). I keep a bug out vest in the car instead of a bug out bag.
    On the rifle, it might be as we fear. The idiot was talking in the discord about how “unique” the rifle is and how it would quickly be tracked back to his grandfather, and about how the scope alone was worth $2k.
    I’m the spatter, we’re back to the armor theory. The initial inside reports were than Charlie was wearing thin titanium plates (only thing he could conceal under a t-shirt) and the round ricocheted off the edge of the plate up into his neck, and there’s no exit because it lost enough velocity in the ricochet to lodge in his noggin.
    This sort of armor: https://www.ade.pt/product/mantis-titanium-armor-plate/

24. That scope mount looks familiar…. Zrak was the company I found some from long years ago, a clone of the Mauser rings IIRC. Twist off front and rear had a clip for a dovetail base. https://www.p-a-distributing.com/m48mounts.html

    1. Oops. Never mind… I didn’t see the zoomed in view. If / when the boom stick hit butt first, it slide back maybe? Front is almost off the base.

25. The scope mount is a common offset ring. They are made by just about all the scope mount manufacturers. They are available so a shorter or longer tubed scope can be mounted.

    I find it hard to believe a 30-06
    round would not inflict collateral damage on other persons.
    The 30-06 casing is convenient because you have more space to scrawl whatever messages you want to deliver.

    I agree with those pointing out the immediate removal of the physical scene is not good evidence gathering.

    Paul J

26. The kid confessed to his buds on social media so there’s that.

27. This guy may be on to something.

    https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/earshot-the-charlie-kirk-murder

28. I’m not sure what the Yeesrailees used to murder Kirk, with no exit wound and a slightly downward trajectory, perhaps a really good custom air rifle? Maybe fired from a drone? Lewis and Clark brought an Italian made air rifle for their Great Northwest Passage hike.

29. To me, rifle looks like an an FN model 50, I have a Belgium military version but they made and sold commercial versions as JC Higgins, Western Auto etc. Fits with the grandpa’s gun and you have to mount the front scope ring like that or alot of scopes won’t clear the bolt enough to cycle it or use a fixed power or see through rings.

30. Here’s a link to some info on the model 50. You frequently find them in pawn shops under a thick layer of dust. They’re shooters though, easy worth the $2 to 300 they’ll be asking for them. Will drop right in to an aftermarket stock for a commercial 98 from boyds, etc…

    https://www.chuckhawks.com/j_c_higgins_50.htm

31. Rejoice my brethren for it is the 19th of September. Nine millimeter day.

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    And for those haters out there, I fart in your general direction. I like .45s also and will have another one soon.
    .40s? Those I can do without.

    Shooter

    1. 45, 46…whatever it takes.

       1. I used a 1911A1 for decades because no one made a .46.

          Shooter

          1. .460 Rowland.

32. HOLT SHIT

    this is a 4th possible shooter. the robinson boy. the blue shirt guy, the brown shirt guy, and now the white shirt guy..

    https://x.com/The1PDP/status/1968783429928919343?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1968783429928919343%7Ctwgr%5E0980f8af7cd0b936404d6215e7d9023492d012f0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fstateofthenation.info%2F%3Fp%3D34470

    1. Sounds more like JFK everyday, Charlie must have pissed off Netenyahoo really bad.

       Shooter

33. BCE,

    What makes you think there was an exit wound…?

    Bullet enters L chest at an angle at Kirk’s roughly 11 o’clock, blasts through any number of major arterial vessels in the upper chest/lower neck region, and hits the spinal column (about 2-3 inches of bone). After passing through 6+ inches of meatspace.
    A spinal column hit explains Kirk’s instant arm posturing as he went down, and the entry placement easily explains the fountains of blood that indicated DRT from the entry wound, and the lack of any pink mist from the rear.
    So possibly no exit wound.

    That’s before we get into whether he had on a vest not rated to stop a rifle bullet coming in, but which would have far less difficulty stopping one from getting out after transiting his chest and spinal column, and if it was an expanding hunting round, even more so.

    QED
    No heavy lifting required to get from A to B.

    Given that I didn’t see Ghey Wind Up Toy carrying a rifle to or from the roof, the only thing that works is that he shoved it down his pant leg coming and going.

    Given the yuuuuuuge negative backlash to this shooting, anyone positing a sooper-secrit conspiracy to do something so public, repulsive, and bat-shit crazy would have to conclude that the imaginary conspirators were even stoopider than Ghey Wind Up Toy. Like shoot-yourself-in-the-dick-continuously-until-the-magazine-runs-dry-then-reload stoopid.

    Sometimes a lone whackjob with a gun is all there is, or needs to be.
    Occam’s Razor sez Fucktard did it all by his lonesome.

    Unless somebody’s got something more authoritative than internet guesses, best to stick a fork in this one unless something else turns up.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XgFsitnQw

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