(S)Election Day… Have At It… Either Way We’re Hosed

Greetings and Salutations!
Needed a serious break for the past few…
Between managing the InLaws, their Air Conditioning issues (still ongoing) the House cleanup (still ongoing) and money issues (who’s getting paid and how much? type of things)… I haven’t been able to ‘manage the bandwidth’ mentally like I usually do.

That and due to the potential upcoming sporkiness, I haven’t had a drink since the Hurricane(s). Booze is the last thing I need right now but fortunately/unfortunately, it’s the ‘synaptic lubricant’ that helps get the writers block get pushed out.

I’m only able to hammer this out as there’s a bit of quiet time this A.M.

Call it The Quiet Before The Storm Aye?

Not sure where we’re headed, but no matter what, we’re in some s-l-o-o-o-o-w ride downhill… the whole quote from Ernest Hemingway’s 1926 novel ‘The Sun Also Rises’….that’s the one where a character named Mike responds to a question about how he went bankrupt with the line, “Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly…”

OUR “suddenly” is purely going to suck no matter what

My rationale is that “Heritage ‘Muricans” as /ourguys/ like to call ourselves? The majority of ‘normie tier’ folks are utterly incapable of doing anything that used to be taken for granted just 50 years ago.

Damned near no one out there knows how to change a tire, never mind maintain a vehicle under austere circumstances. Most think the meat they eat comes from a supermarket and have never participated in the nasty-assed ‘harvesting’ of an animal of any size.

Hell, the biggest animal I ever “worked on” was at a ‘Pig Pickin’ back at Fort Campbell with my rodeo buddies… I used to hang out with a bunch of the clowns (literally!) at the Red Roper which was a really good Country and Western bar back in Clarksville oh so long ago… damned near puked when we gutted that fucker… a hog has a lotta guts let me tell ya… and the stink? Hooo-WEEEE!

You think anyone even knows what goes into doing that ‘stuff’? Never mind the practical application? Or even when to safely harvest certain game? Any asshole can go out in the woodline with a rifle and start shooting

But in the long run, this way lies ruin.

IF and only IF we run into a Mad Max societal breakdown that somehow does NOT have a mass casualty event to begin with there sure as hell will be one within what I figure will be about 2-3 months after.

My rationale for it is that initially people are going to be the ‘typical American’… for the most part, we band together to help each other out in a crisis… see Western North Carolina as a shining example…

However

In a full on economic collapse (which IMO is where we’re headed) and there’s no more money period fucking dot which means no more goods… i.e. gas/food/the “usual stuff”/jobs that all too many people here in the States have had, and take for granted, to the point that most fucking people think it’s a God Damned Right and not a Privilege to have all this “stuff” at the literal drop of a hat.

I see it ALLLLLLL the time at the Glorious People’s Tractor Factory. Clients get highly pissed off when I try mind you try to tell them that the process for them to receive a lot of their ‘widgets’ takes 10 to 15 business days to process, and even then that’s an optimal outcome. Mind you I then have to translate ‘business days’ into “that means usually a month plus or minus…”

They tend to get bent out so badly I’ve taken to calling it “The Amazon Effect” or “The Prime Problem”. The Bezosbot, because he did revolutionize getting ‘stuff’ from Point ‘A’ to Point ‘B’ in damned near record time (24-48 hours sometimes depending on location and type of ‘stuff’) he created something of a monster. People have unfortunately become spoiled fucking rotten with this, and now expect EVERYTHING no matter how small or petty to be handled right here and right fucking now, OR ELSE!

Which then leads us to what I was speaking of… it’s pretty much that initially everyone is going to try to help each other out.

That being with the exception of the “Blue Hives” i.e. Large Urban Cities, which will go full on CHUD within 2 weeks is my guess. CHUD being from that 1984 movie so named, which stands for Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers… underground human based mutants that eat other humans…

However, during this time period, we’ll see a new version of “The Golden Horde” also known as “The Free Shit Army” also known as “Muh Gibsmedat!” going mobile and headed out up major interstates, literally like a colossal horde of locusts, eating everything if not everyone who stands in their way.

Which also means that the woodline?
Once people start running out of ‘canned stuff’?
It’ll be stripped bare within the aforementioned 2-3 months.

Mind you I’m not worried about Bambi and the Gang. Critters have been pretty good about learning how to avoid folks… that being said, we will see a drastic drop in available wildlife for quite a spell, followed on by quite an even MORE drastic dropoff in Hoomon Beans.

In fact a year or two after, when the smoke clears, I’m figuring that there will be a huge swath of deforestation in certain areas that get below freezing on the regular from wood being cut for firewood (nevermind it takes up to a year for wood to really be useful as firewood, but like I said, people don’t know these things), as well as the subsequent finding of massive amounts of skeletons in makeshift ‘survivalist camps’ and ‘stuff’ from idiots who think ‘heading to the hills’ will be their salvation.

Heading into the woodline with ZERO skills is just begging for a slow drawn out death via disease, starvation and/or vitamin deficiency. Sure you might have been a Eagle Scout… you may even have some basic knowledge. It all comes down to so many things, that I truly don’t believe that many have what it takes (including myself) to survive a full on Max Max World.

Add on that the immediate aftermath here in the US of ALL the psychotropic drugs being cut off within 30-90 days of said-disaster?

Oh Holy Hells No.
People right now are almost completely out of control. Urban Yoofs chimping out all over the place is bad enough… now just imagine adding in alllllll of them AWFLs (Affluent White Female Liberals aka Auntie Box-Wine/Cat Ladies) who start running out of their head-meds and box wine?

Can you say “Chaos on an Utterly EPIC Scale”?

I maintain that we need to keep our eyes open, ears to the ground. There’ll be plenty of ‘signs and portents’ of things to come. A couple that I prognosticate are certain elements of the DotGov ‘going on extended absences’ or taking junkets to places like New Zealand and the like…

The DotMil upping security for ‘no good reason’ as is the case currently at Fort Drum in New York. Per Reddit:

…which a few comments followed:

…and this:

So, from here on out, the “New Norm” is locking DotMil bases down tighter that a ticks ass? The only time(s) I can remember things being -that- locked down was during legit ‘enemy’ (i.e. overseas actor) threats.

Now a couple of comments claim it’s because there’s a ‘new Sherriff in town’ i.e. a new MP Unit on base and they’re ‘flexing’… but to me? It doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense. The actions being taken are at a whole different level in that they seem to be targeting people going ON TO the base (i.e. making sure the guy driving on is ACTUALLY the guy driving on) and ‘stuff’ being supposedly sent/mailed onto the base… which is weird…

To my mind, and my analysis is pretty good usually, it sounds like they’re worried about ‘internal bad actors’ maybe? Infiltrators possibly? Lord knows we’ve had enough nutbars try at ‘take the gate’ with truck and other types of assaults at various DotMil facilities lately. However, that being said, the fact that they seem to be doing a LOT of internal sweeps and overwatch makes me wonder just how nervous the brass is about internal threats?

This is a data point either way.
Then, Hollywierd.
Isn’t in interesting that damned near ALL the celebutards/adult pretenders who came out and started huffing and puffing and endorsing Cackles The Drunken Clown were either ALL part of the Epstein Air Logs on the “Lolita Express” and/or part of and present for Sean “Dead Man Walking” Combs aka Diddy’s “freakoff” parties? Seems the ‘dual threat’ ones, meaning on BOTH the Lolita Express logs AND the “freakoff” party list(s) were some of the earliest endorsers of Cackles.

I report, you decide.
I mean our boy from Bawston, Ben Affleck bailed from J-Lo just before Diddy got busted. I mean according to sources, our lil Jennie-Poo was a major procurer for the Diddster. It’s so bad that she literally up and ran out during an autograph session/paparazzi lovefest promoting her latest flop….er…. film… Link HERE I of course can’t find the pic now, but when sumdood yelled out the question: ““J. Lo, do you have any comments about P. Diddy and the allegations?” the picture that got snapped was awesome.

It combined terror/horror and shock all at once.

No wonder she ran like Hell
It’s ‘cos she’s guilty as Hell.

Keep an eye on ‘other wired-in folks’ there.
If they start –suddenly– pulling up and bailing, there’s another sign. In fact if you read the dailies like I do, you can actuially see that a LOT of the saner /ourguy/ actors and actresses in the past year or so have ‘quit the biz’ and bailed to the country, as they know that Hollyweird will burn when the shytte hits the atmospheric oscillation device.

It came really close during the whole L.A. Riots aka the Reginald Denny Assault. Fuck Rodney King…. that chimp got what he deserved IMO. Hollyweird was that close to being razed tot he ground. In fact, my thought is it might have been a good thing if it had, mainly because the best way to convert someone from being a liberal is to have them get raped/robbed/beaten by a minority that they’re oh so fond of championing normally. The NIMBY factor is why the majority of these ‘tards keep doing the stupid social justice virtue-signaling that they do…

They almost never have to come face-to-face with those who they force onto others.

So when you see them heading for safety zones, you know the time is close(er).

So that’s what I got.
More Later
Head on a Swivel
Big Country


51 thoughts on “(S)Election Day… Have At It… Either Way We’re Hosed”

  1. Add on that the immediate aftermath here in the US of ALL the psychotropic drugs being cut off within 30-90 days of said-disaster?

    I’m hoping that at least half of those will An Hero, but there will still be a lot of them. Especially women.

  2. I’m so far out in the boonies that the closest town, almost a half hour away, is so small it doesn’t even have a stop light.

    I doubt that the gimmies from the cities will make it this far, but I do see a several local threats.

    1) Locals who have made no effort to prepare, this includes GWOT Vets who sit around smoking weed and hanging out on Socialist websites.

    2) Our County Sheriff Deputies, most of whom have never taken the oath, put on a real uniform or served a day in this Country’s defense. Those deputies are vicious and like to turn simple “disturbing the peace” type calls into major events that they can use for training exercises, ie. going in through the woods, surrounding the home of a middle aged woman and terrorizing her for hours.

    3) Hunters who come here every Fall and set up their “deer camps” on the local Forest Service roads. They are a problem now, but if they make it here looking to survive on the remaining bambies, it won’t take long for them to start raiding the homes of locals looking for something to eat or someone to rape.

    Hate to say it, but I hope that when “it” happens we have at least knee-deep snow and the roads don’t get plowed.

    1. Good observations and that comes from a GWOT veteran that was looking forward to smoking weed in retirement

    2. God is truly Good! It’s 300 am west coast, and The major news station have called the election for The Donald! Won’t lie, I fucking cried. I Love this country, and I fucking hate what the communists Dems tried to do.

      So the real test starts today, what do we allow those smug prick communists to do? Burn cities, throw even more shit show riots?,,,,,,, Trump won, you in the larger areas might have a problem. Watch your six, don’t do crowds.

      I was really sweating this election. And thank you all who did vote! My god that was the single most important thing every citizen could accomplish in the cycle.

      In Oregon where I live the communist up north will of course touch Portland! Maybe Eugene maybe Ashland. Down south were we are. Ain’t nothing going to happen.

      Down here I’m told those pusses raise their heads they’re gonna get curb stomped. TicToc

      Dirk Williams

    3. The primary advantage of rural is low population density. The rest of the homestead utopia is pure fantasy.

      1. So being able to raise your own food, cut your wood to provide heat for cooking and warmth, having 3 sources of Water, owning the high ground, having good neighbors that you train and share the same values with is just fantasy…Lol that’s just what people who won’t make the sacrifice to do it say…Come on your better than that…

        1. All made possible by urban capital and commerce run by the little hats and their sell-out middlemen. The problem is quality of people not quantity of dirt. Rural does not guaranty quality. Just fewer of all kinds.

  3. I hate that all the Looney Tunes, Merry Melodies, and Tom n Jerry cartoons have gotten the ax due to political correctness. Not to mention that Ole Grand Army of the Republic Veteran Uncle Remus who was cancelled because idiot liberals don’t speak Gulla.

    Zippedee do dah. Zippedee Day.

    1. I miss Ol’ Remus’ daily summaries.
      He was such a wise one.

      And his best advice still holds true:

      Stay away from crowds.

      (If only the J6-er Normies had listened to his advice….)

    2. Old cartoons are on ME TV & Quest TV weekend mornings and Remus died some 5-6 years ago.

  4. Early voted 2 weekends ago. So locked down for tonight. Florida, heavily armed as it is, will be an interesting place to be. My guess is the military is getting their shit squared away in anticipation of a Trump victory. Lots of Generals that went along with the LGBT/DEI shit will have their heads on the chopping block. That and maybe getting ready to take part in a city Chimp Shoot. Got to enforce discipline.

  5. I would make it your highest priority to get that place bought in Tennessee with the inlaws and get ready for the show if you can Brother
    ..

  6. Based on its position in a border region, thought crosses my mind that maybe, just maybe, they are getting ready to help all of those New Yorkers trying to flee the country if Trump wins, or to help with the influx of new rapeugees waiting on the other side of the border if cummala wins.

  7. I’m so far out in the boonies that the closest town, almost a half hour away, is so small it doesn’t even have a stop light.

    I doubt that the gimmies from the cities will make it this far, but I do see a several local threats.

    1) Locals who have made no effort to prepare, this includes GWOT Vets who sit around smoking weed and hanging out on Socialist websites.

    2) Our County Sheriff Deputies, most of whom have never taken the oath, put on a real uniform or served a day in this Country’s defense. Those deputies are vicious and like to turn simple “disturbing the peace” type calls into major events that they can use for training exercises, ie. going in through the woods, surrounding the home of a middle aged woman and terrorizing her for hours.

    3) Hunters who come here every Fall and set up their “deer camps” on the local Forest Service roads. They are a problem now, but if they make it here looking to survive on the remaining bambies, it won’t take long for them to start raiding the homes of locals l

  8. The hog butchering. I’ve thought about this for a long time. They have robotics that perform surgery on people now. You mean to tell me they can’t set up a meat processing plant with robotics? Imagine how much more hygienic that would be. Imagine how much cheaper it would be to operate? So why do they import the illegal peoples to work in these places if it could be done cheaper and safer by robots. Well we all know the answer to that.

    The military police and access to military bases. Strictly speaking of CONUS bases all you need to do is get a Dominoes Pizza uniform, a bag that you put the pizzas in to keep them hot and a few pizza pies. The guards will just let you roll through. The Dominoes pizza guy rolls through the base gates 50 times a day I suppose. No special pass needed. The guards see the pizza guy all day everyday he just gets waved on in. I know from experience

    1. I lived at HQ EUCOM when I has a high school brat. Due to the Baader Meinhoff gang of terrorists bombing O Clubs (Wiesbaden) and other similar crap the base did a full vehicle inspection of every vehicle coming on base including school buses. Concertina wire at critical points and armed MP patrolling the streets all night. Somehow they forgot to close the hole in the fence that every kid on base used to sneak in and out to go to the gasthaus, buy hash, or whatever other mischief they got into. There is a lot of theater or incompetence on military bases.

    2. Here’s a TRUE SIT Rep,,,,.the US Military just authorized themselves the authority to use lethal force on US Citizens! WTF it’s true, I’ve read it. I’m not happy.

      These stupid fuckers don’t seem to realize their families the families of their fellow troops live among us.

      How to say this gently, you mil folk start shooting my fellow Americans it’s gonna cost you big time.

      Who the fuck in the mil thought this was a grand idea. The folk at the top continue to think they are untouchable. That’s true to an extent, which makes your people just that much more venerable.

  9. I ordered a piece of heavy shop equipment during Amazon’s Prime Days last month. Got a good price and free shipping, which was promised to be November 13th.

    So I go on vacation, and the damned thing was delivered less than a week later. I’m really going to miss things like this. Fortunately my neighbor, a goid guy, took it in and kept it for me.

    I’ve already figured which neighbors get the stash of handheld radios I have in stock, and have identified those who might be problematic in a SHTF situation. Your earlier post on mapping out your AO was good advice.

    Preppers might get through this next round of The Troubles, but it would be better to look to the longer-run with a bit of land and homesteading skills.

  10. Bless your heart BCE

    Good stuff, and may Bambi and Thumper and Peanut all get a break from the tier 2 hooman beans when the shite comes down

  11. Got to wonder what dot.mil thinks those fit 10 thousand military age men per month for about the last year plan to do when the bugle calls Assembly.

  12. Bro gave me some moonshine with maraschino cherries in it on the way out to greener pastures, damn fine in coffee.
    We once skinned a deer on a carlift after the best shooting day ever of .45UZI, 30-06, Remington pump shotgun and they put one of those fire barrel cleaner shells in the SG and didn’t tell me and it was wert de ferk as a jet of flame shot out while everyone was in LMFAO mode.
    Venison jerky is the fire and once had a tire fall off due to HS prank of lug nut loosening, so the “trusty” scissors jack came out on the side of the road, kept all appendages out from under the hooptie Chevy.
    It’s already fourth world turd with no cohesion or unity of any kind other than Benetton world EBT shopping bazaar, just as the the Kenyan bathhouse gloryhole server promised.
    Fire, fire, let’s burn something all down, uhh huh, huhh huh.

  13. What nonsense! Shame on you, Tiny.

    The fact is that at least 50% of Americans are as smart and resourceful as you fellas here. They may not know everything, but they learn fast. They’re also disciplined, courageous, and they’re ethical and they’re compassionate. In other words – they are AMERICANS. The people arrayed against you are none of those things. Sure, they can destroy and disrupt… but they can’t run things and keep them going. We saw this in Afghanistan, the Kraine, and now we’re seeing it in the Gaza Strip. Ask the so-called “roof top Koreans” about dealing with rampaging neolib niggers.

    Hell’s bells, fellas – 50%! That’s enough Americans to put down a coloured insurrection, ship the turdies back to the third world, send a rocket ship into orbit and bring it back to the pad it launched from – and be home for coffee time!

    Have some pride in yourselves! Our grandparents and great grandparents survived and thrived during the Dirty 30s facing dire times that make these look piffling by comparison. We must do the same. Embrace the adversity men. This is why God put us here – for times just like these.

    They will own NOBODY. And they will be unhappy. My money is on the white man.

    1. My Point Ya Fookin’ Canoehead is that the MAJORITY of people here? Now? They can’t do jack shytte when it comes to survival.
      Yeah, we’re a pretty good lot… that’s a given… we’re the ‘discarded euro-refuse’ that the Eurofags didn’t want… at least our ancestors were.

      These days?
      Despite all the attempts toi ingraine some for of ‘survival ability’ in ourt kids, unfortunately, the Almighty Fon-God has taken over.

      It’s easy when you can goolag: “When is the best time for me to plant corn in my area?” when shytte is operational, it’s another entirely different issue when all that info is no longer available, nor ingrained and lern’t.

      THAT was my point…

      1. Wouldn’t be the first time I was full of shit, BC. But…consider: time is not static – it’s fluid, dynamic. When the SHTF, the guys that have food, can keep the lights on and defend themselves and communities… they’re going to become the new leaders. Their word will literally become law overnight. They will lead the recovery.

        All Americans need is common bloody sense. With the right leader, America could pay off its debt, deport the human trash, bring home jobs…in FIVE YEARS. All this shit you’re talking is true… but only because we tolerate it.

        A lot of normies and grillers are waking up – and they’re pushing back. Keep your chin up. You are not beaten.

      2. I have a simple lesson from history about who and what ends up inheriting. We may remember something called Thermopylae. The Spartans, and Greeks in general with citizen farmers. Militias if you will. So a bunch of plowboys pick up their armor and go harvesting Persian throats before going back to the plow. We know the Spartans were more hardcore than most, but the ability to afford professional lazy garrison troops was a luxury not afforded to the Greeks. Yet, they seem to have done a good job at the bidness of killin’. Just like a later gent Nathan Bedford Forrest took up arms when his plantation was threatened. Men that are forged in the iron of day to day hardness will survive. The degenerate scum of easy living will fertilize their fields. A man is only a man if the can endure pain and privation and protect his family. And change a tire.

  14. It be what it be. I have a contingency plan however flawed it may be.

    I have no faith in the system. I didn’t vote and never will again. It’s fake, gay and retarded.

    Every national congressman or senator we send to the capitol votes against their constituents interests in favor of Israel.

    I bought more ammo Friday. I will buy two more guns tomorrow if I see the winds blowing the way I expect. I would like three but budget restrictions.

    Hog gutting, along with deer, squirrel (sorry peanut) and rabbit ain’t purty but neither are the greens growing in my garden. Meats, meat, pilgrim.

  15. Regarding the base lockdowns, I’m going to put on my tin foil hat and wildly speculate.

    1. As someone else said, Trump wins and all of the DEI officers and traitors to their oath are scared and will be picked up and jailed therefore bases locked down.

    2. They are worried about unrest after the election and locked down the base for security and if they have to mobilize the troops.

    3. The Kamel “wins” after stealing the election, Those really running things behind the scenes are terrified of a Civil War. Remember what happened at the start of Civil War I, Generals and whole units rebelled and raided armories for weapons. Almost all of the Confederate weapons at the start of the war were originally “property of the US Army”.

    4. The Kamel steals the election and she has publicly said “In my 1st hundred days if Congress doesn’t act, I’ll sign an executive order and begin gun confiscation”.
    How’s that gonna go over ? Remember this bitch is to the left of Bernie Sanders.

    No matter what happens it’s gonna be interesting.
    For those who want to read a good book about what happens during a societal collapse (in this case an EMP), read William Forstchen’s “One Second After”. Talk about frigging GRIM.

    FYI that government studies have shown that if that happened 90% of Americans will be dead in a year and few will survive east of the Mississippi. The population is too high and there is nowhere to hide from the hordes from the cities and gangs. Those who survive will be out West up in the Rockies away from everyone.

    1. A hearty second to: “read William Forstchen’s “One Second After”. It’s quite instructive.

      And yeah, it’s GRIM as hell, but it’s probably not quite as bad as it’ll be in some places. If you worked hard, prepared, and have the right mindset and tribe – it *might* not be worse. But your margin for failure or injury or sickness or poor harvest will be narrow enough that any one of them would likely kill.

      Yep – if it all goes sideways, only the unlucky survive. So – feelin’ lucky? 😉

      And FWIW – I aim to survive, and have been mentally preparing for it getting *really* ugly.

  16. Well big fella…I don’t I could tell you anything you don’t already know. No matter who wins, everyone else loses.

    I don’t think it’ll get as bad as you’re thinking, ONLY because TPTB seem to still know enough to keep the water running and the lights on. For now.

    Then again, as I often like to quote Mr. Murphy: “professionals are predictable but the world is full of dangerous amateurs”.

    Just keep your shit wired tight, brother.

  17. I’m glad you posted this BC.

    “finding of massive amounts of skeletons in makeshift ‘survivalist camps’ and ‘stuff’ from idiots who think ‘heading to the hills’ will be their salvation.”

    Nobody in my old social circles would listen to me when I preached the same. Instead of setting back at least two weeks of food it was all “I’ll go hunting or fishing if I need food. Country boy will survive durrrr!!!”

    I’ve never bought into the hunter-gather thing. It was a hard life for the injuns who did it all their life. Not to mention, the most experienced ones didn’t always make it.

    I have noticed one constant note throughout history. A loose confederation of farmers didn’t fare well either. They’d all get picked off one at a time. A tight knit group of farmers with a hill fort did fare pretty well. Alfred the Great had a pretty good system in Wessex. The settlers here did pretty well given the forts and block houses we’ve kept restored. So you’re onto something with the mentioning of buying concertina in bulk.

    Theoretically. If a small FOB was constructed with earth barriers, concertina wire, and other party favors available to the common man. With a small force (30-50) healthy and reasonably motivated players. How well do you think it would fare against an opposing team lacking any air or fire support? I think it would make an interesting game of Minecraft.

    I may reach out to you by email about it one day. I don’t expect to pick your brain for free. Fleshing out this idea with your expertise requires at least a fist full of shekels in ye olde tip jar.

    1. I’ve read similar things before and it’s about the best anyone has come up with. Add some people with skills like (old school) mechanics, a machinist or two (small machine tools that don’t take too much power) and someone who knows how to generate the to keep the lights on.

      That’s in addition to farmers (large garden’s actually), medical types (Navy Corpsman maybe), Construction workers and undoubtedly others.

      I’m basically a retired Chemist who has spent a LOT of time thinking about this stuff since I started Mel Tappan’s articles When I was stationed in South Korea in 76/77.

      As if anyone really cares what I have decided; if the grid does completely go down, we, as a civilization, are fucked. What we know now isn’t coming back in our lifetime and may not be back for many generations.

    2. I’ll try this again. Sometimes things I try to post just disappear into another realito or something.

      C, I’ve read others advocating similar things and it’s about the best I have seen anyone come up with.

      Add people with needed skills like an “old school” mechanic, a machinist with some small machine tools that run on relatively low power, people who know how to make the power to keep the lights on, someone skilled in construction and medical types, like maybe a Navy Corpsman. Add to the list as you wish.

      Today, I’m just an old, retired Chemist who has been thinking a LOT about this, and doing what I can, since I started reading Mel Tappan’s articles while I was stationed in South Korea 76/77.

      Personally, I’ve decided that when the grid goes down for the last time, we as a civilization, are fucked. Anything like the “normal” we know now, or even that known by my parents’ generation (WWII) isn’t coming back in the lifetime of anyone who is alive now. Probably not for many generations. Think a repeat of the Dark Ages.

    3. C,
      Those concepts were reasonably functional back in the olden days.
      The chinese thought that, too, as they built their Great Wall, only to have it zero’d by external ICBMs and entirely predictable internal natural disasters.
      .
      2024, every punk with a hundred dollar drone already mapped your location, and already developed a hundred plans to own everything you have.
      .
      And ‘yes’, the war in the Ukraine was and is a skim-scam.
      However, the astute observer might remember those dozens of drone videos clearly illustrating noplace is good enough to hide.
      .
      Our enemies are 3D.
      Our defenses are stuck in 2D.
      I wish it was different.
      The only hope is going aggressively after them.
      .
      .
      Sammy ‘the bull’ discusses going to Madison Square Garden for the President Trump rally.
      He noticed everybody was polite, politely moving if somebody politely says “Excuse me…”.
      Nice utopia, but utterly dysfunctional facing a million starving/horny professional criminals from some inner-city slum.
      .
      Ignorant savages?
      Agreed, but can they hire/bribe the White kids with the drones?
      All it takes is the promise of some cheerleader slave nookie.

  18. Face it. Combine the books “The Fourth Turning” and “The Collapse of Civilizations” with your favorite TEOTWAWKI movie and that’s where we are. And, yeah, I expect the collapse to be global.

    I’d like to be around to see the “new normal” on the other side, but at my age, I don’t expect to.

  19. Alaska saved us. Last night it had boiled down to a handful of States that had established fraud systems in place, and Alaska. The Ho needed to take everything left. The Donald only needed Alaska and they didn’t have any way to deliver thousands of pre sorted ballots at 0300 to Fairbanks. That’s why after dragging things out as long as they could they finally threw in the towel.
    The financial collapse is coming. Probably sometime in 25. You have a little time to try to prepare for it. The chimp out in the cities will be epic. They will discover fairly quickly that they won’t make it very far outside of those cities. We already have an invading army set up inside our country by the commies. We are the new Viet Cong. Plan accordingly.

  20. Word on the street, according to NJ assemblyman, Jamal Holley, is Obammy and Big Mike split on private jet late election night. Let the games begin.

    1. skip,
      Does somebody need to tell that o’bama ex-FirstSpouse transvestite person his comb-over is dumb?

  21. A few things to keep in mind …

    Everyone is at the end of multiple supply chains, long or short, competent or not competent.

    Maybe you can hole up on some piece of land abstracted away from the concerns of the middle of the supply chains, at least for a while.

    But if you make things, you need people to help you make them … and what precisely is that “public school system” good for, the one that teaches the kids how to have high self esteem without the competence to support that?

    Increasingly you wind up explaining what are very matter-of-fact basic things to people who should be able to know what those are because it’s a matter-of-fact part of their jobs.

    But you can’t, and you don’t, so you wind up pulling more weight than you should have to, because you’re the competent within vast seas of people who have been lifted up on nothing.

    Western Civ has plenty of stories to tell where “Atlas shrugs”, Samson tears the roof off the sucker, and so forth … so what happens then?

    Maybe what you make is as complex as industrial systems, or maybe it’s the products of a refined agricultural process, but you need people and supply chains for those, even at small scales, even if you’re stocked for oblivion with barter and resources at depth for decades.

    Eventually, you’ll have to trade for the things you don’t have, for labour you don’t have, and the myth of isolation breaks down not long after that.

    Also, don’t fool yourselves.

    Living over two hundred kilometres away down a dusty dirt road from what you might regard as civilisation, only for the bastards to find some way to reach out … yeah, been there, done that, not looking forward to the sequel.

    All your distance has ever bought you is the time to deal with pressing current events and perhaps a supply chain buffer.

    Which, of course, is what this latest national election in the US was really about.

    Make use of the time and buffer while also considering whether you’re being overrun “gradually, then suddenly” in the Hemingway fashion.

    Anything beyond that is essentially a self-aggrandising pose at scales smaller than at a community level.

    Functionally speaking, anything so well defended, so well funded, so well provisioned, so well powered and watered and fed is essentially a dead and separate entity to the encapsulating society around it.

    And so rather than risk having you corrupt their vision of society, they wall you off from it if they don’t plan on invading with an eye toward the complementary ends of resources and aggression.

    That works in multiple directions, ask the Amish how they get on with it.

    There is a poetic myth where if you don’t “hang together” you will “hang separately”.

    You are already hanging separately.

    It’s because your encapsulating society didn’t feel it necessary to preserve and maintain its core ethos and supporting systems structures that most likely led you to separate from it.

    The mass society that resulted may pull down what’s left, the products and remnants of which you still enjoy, but as there are fewer resources required for taking what has been preserved versus making an effort to preserve it, where precisely does that leave you?

    If your answer involves some sort of Hollyweird vision of a last stand or perhaps an armed run to the nearest heliport or airfield so you can make a run for What’s Left at the last possible moment, you are already so unbelievably fucked.

    It’s great to have a Redoubt.

    Know when to leave it behind before you’re that fucked.

  22. I just spent the past 5 days walking around a very large section of land in New Mexico, looking for a mule deer buck. I found a few tracks and sign, but not much. Saw plenty of elk sign, too. But never saw an elk or deer. I never get skunked so bad that I don’t at least see a herd of does. I only heard 2 shots the whole time I was out there, from another section a mile or so away. Don’t know if they got anything.

    For those who say if things go sideways, they are just going to go out and shoot a deer? It’s not as easy or simple as you may think it is when you have every advantage. When you are competing for the same deer with thousands of others with the same idea? Not happening.

    1. Yea people seem to not study any history where people wiped out most four legged critters in the great depression period…Better plan would be have your own animals that can reproduce food for you yearly and of course a way to protect them…

      1. My people raised chickens and rabbits in between piling the kids into the back seat of pre-AC sedan while pulling a small house trailer around the state while the old man chased work. Mom couldn’t say the word ‘Coalinga’ without spitting venom. Just saw one of those stupid web articles in the MSM directing people to move to that low cost shithole. Guess the modern libturd never heard of Earthquake, rednecks or Mexicans. They will learn that pigs have to eat too, especially when latte sippers visit the wrong part of town.

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