A Guest Poast From Shooter: Firearm Safety

Greetings and Salutations!
Tonight we’re having a Guest Poast from Shooter, a regular commenter here on Ye Olde Blegg. His article is well done, and it’s a reiteration of some pretty common knowledge that we all pretty much know, but is good to go over again every once and a while. That being Firearms Safety 101.

It’s always good to get a refresher, and I thank Shooter for sending it to me. And as stated before, if you want to throw me a story, a poast or some ‘stuff’ and I deem it worthy, I’ll throw it up here with the proper credit where credit is due. Submissions can be DM’d to me at bce187th@protonmail.com. So for that, here’s tonight’s article:

A great and glorious day to you, my brothers and sisters.

I’m going to touch on a subject that is often ignored by even long time firearms aficionados. Firearms Safety or How To Avoid That Embarrassing ND (negligent discharge) and how to make sure no real harm is done even if one happens.

A Pet peeve of mine, I get rilly cranky if someone around me is being unsafe with a firearm. It shows a great lack of respect and consideration of those folks nearby and even those not so nearby. Also, it’s dangerous as hell. Once that bullet is launched you are committed. There is no calling it back or self destruct command.

The classic list of safety rules:

1- Treat every gun as if it is loaded.

I have some quibbles with this one, if I can see inside the firearm or it is disassembled on a table, it “is” safe right up until it is closed or reassembled again.

2- Never point the muzzle of a gun at anything you do not wish to destroy.

(I think this should actually be rule number one as it is the very most important in my humble opinion.)

3- Keep your finger off the trigger until the sights are on target.

This is why you see knowledgeable shooters with their fingers laid along the trigger guard while pointing a gun at a target. It is also very easy to forget. A rather large study was done with law enforcement and military personnel using a shoot house for training. A high percentage while under stress (50ish percent?) had their fingers creep onto the trigger and swore they didn’t. They were shocked when shown video proof. So this has to be worked on constantly, especially when drawing or holstering handguns.

4- Always be sure of your target and WHAT IS BEHIND IT.

Over penetration happens, you don’t want to shoot the old lady behind the perp. Well, not usually. You may need to shift position slightly left or right to avoid this. As has been said, every bullet you fire has a lawyer attached to it. The legal consequences of a bad shoot can ruin your life.

I’ve been shooting since I got my first pellet gun at 8, a Benjamin pneumatic smooth bore. Moved up to .22s and shotguns by 10. I have fired somewhere north of 100,000 rounds of ammo in my life. No idea exactly, could be quite a bit more. In that time I’ve had four NDs. First was a single shot break barrel 20 guage shotgun. I was about 15, would have sworn I emptied it.

I pointed it across an empty field and pulled the trigger. Bang!

A bit startling to say the least.
The second time I’d been hunting with my Sears semi auto .22, was about 16. Racked the bolt until all the shells flipped out onto my desk, racked it four more times to be sure. Pointed it up, took the safety off and pulled the trigger. Bang! A round had stuck in the tubular magazine. Third time, was about 35 and fondling a .357 revolver. Pointed it up with it cocked and touched the trigger a bit too hard. BANG!!! That one rattled my head in a closed room. The fourth time I was about 42 and playing with my Cougar which is a sweet pistol with a wonderful trigger. Pointed it up while cocked and touched the trigger too hard. BANG!! Another head rattler, had to get on the roof and fix the 9mm hole a couple of days later.

A couple of common elements here. I should have cleared the weapons properly and I was obeying rule #2 so no harm was done other than some roof abuse. If I fondle a firearm these days I unload it first and triple check it. I reload it when I’m done.

I always check a gun if someone hands one to me even if I just saw them do it. If I hand a trusted friend a gun I inform them if it is loaded. Like I said, I’m really anal about gun safety nowadays.

I grew up in a non shooting family, my brothers both shot but my dad was into golf, not shooting. My friends and I learned gun safety on our own and bitched at each other as needed.

Peer pressure can be a wonderful thing.

Being in a gun club and shooting competition reinforced my safety habits. Range officers have their sense of humor removed as a job requirement.

Hopefully some of you gained some useful information from this. Be safe and God bless you all.

Shooter

My thanks to Shooter for the info. Hopefully this reinforces the good habits you should already have.
Otherwise, a niiiice quiet day here. A good day at work, and now off to play some Red Dead Redemption.
More Later
Big Country


60 thoughts on “A Guest Poast From Shooter: Firearm Safety”

  1. Like Shooter, I’ve got mucho downrange, starting at 5yrs old. (Dad was in fire control, Navy, WW2) I’ve had 1 ND. SLEEPWALKING. This is no shit, I pull my XD, sat on the edge of my bed, discharged a round into some boxes I had stacked up in the corner. Weird af, I had my left hand on top and behind my right. Woke up with a sore spot on the outside, back of the hand. Getting dressed, got ready to holster the XD, and checked the ‘cocked’ indicator, it WAS NOT! Mayday! The ‘loaded chamber’ indicator was up! Damn thing didn’t cycle because it hit my hand! Freaky af, let me tell you!
    Thank you, BCE.
    Greg in Idaho

      1. This is why all my home defense weapons are condition 2, loaded but unchambered. What you describe has always been a fear of mine. At least if im in some weird half awake state, outting the weapon into operation requires a more deliberate scrion rather than just a reflexive action. Ive got a family.

        Of course once i leave the house, condition 1 (or zero for striker guns i guess) is the way.

    2. I keep my HG in the bedroom closet for this reason. So long as your home is fortified enough there’d be a ruckus or you have alert dogs, this is the way…

      1. If I had even once in my life sleepwalked, I’d do that too. Fortunately, I always wake up before wandering about. I mumble in my sleep sometimes, had GF’s mention that but I’m not ambulatory. This is good as I’ve had loaded pistols within reach lying down since I got my 1st .357. Currently have a .357 Tracker under my head and a Berreta 92XI with a surefire on it under the other pillow, cocked and locked. I have several bright Streamlights stuck to magnets on the wall if I need to go for the Tracker. My alarm is my dog, I wear hearing aids.

        My head is wired a bit odd. When I did electronic security both Secret Service and Raytheon liked that I can’t be hypnotized. They didn’t like the fact that lie detectors don’t work on me either. Besides, who needs hypnosis when a 5 dollar wrench works so well. I told them both that if I went missing to change every code I had access to. Or if my son went missing.

        Thanks for the bucket idea Gun Dood. Will help me shoot pistols on the property much more safely. 22 and 9mm that is at 7 yards or less.

        Shooter

  4. Good stuff, Shooter. Yeah, we all have to guard against becoming complacent. My best ND story–

    Late 70’s, I am visiting my uncle’s ranch, riding shotgun in his pickup out on the ranch. One of my cousins is driving. I am taking pot shots out the window at furry varmints as they appear with my trusty Ruger MkI 22 pistol. I take aim a a critter, but it ducks down out of sight. I bring the pistol back inside the cab but forget to engage the safety first. Said critter pops up again and I start to bring the pistol up. BANG! So yeah, one of the notches on my coup stick is for the A/C system in a Ford F-150.

    Decades ago, I took to randomly leaving a fired case in some of my guns when they are cleaned and put away. After awhile, you forget which ones have a fired case, which is the whole point. Tunes you right up when an un-expected empty case jumps out.

    1. I’m sort of impressed. That’s really big game to be hunting with a .22 pistol.

      However, that was a rule #2 failure in a way. Keeping it pointed out the window would have been good.

      Shooter

      1. You are most kind. I would make the argument that I broke every rule you listed. Forgot to add–as we sat there in the cab listening to the “ssssssss” of the Freon leaking out, my cousin, trying his best not to bust out laughing, looks at me deadpan and says, “Well, you got it. It’s dead”.

        While I’m on a roll, try this. Not an ND, just Homer Simpson level DUH. Again on uncle’s ranch in the sage and juniper country along the Oregon/California border. I am hunting on foot, this time with my 36 caliber 1851 Navy repro revolver. I decide to play “High Noon” with a Juniper tree at about 15 yards. I draw from my western style holster (yeah, yeah. I know) and fire from the hip. That lead round ball penetrates the bark on the tree exactly half its diameter, the whizzes back past my right ear. Last I heard, my guardian angle is partial to Johnnie Walker Red.

        1. Don’t feel bad about the duh. I was shooting a friend’s new 2″ Judge (duh #1) using Cowboy loads (duh#2) using a fist sized knothole on a tree as an aimpoint (duh#3). At about 6 yards (duh#4). The 2nd Cowboy .45 LC bounced off of the granite like knothole and whacked the ground by our feet. I was feeling pretty stupid by then, handed the revolver back and said, Seems pretty accurate up close. Lesson learned. Life really is harder if you are stupid.

          Shooter

          3. Not to wear out my welcome with our host, but you can also find me over at Texas Gun Talk.

        2. Wow, RHT. Your AO is worse than mine. I hope you’re packed to unass the city in 20 minutes or less if everything goes to hell. I would suggest heading south towards Mansfield, less traffic, north would be a nightmare.

          Shooter

          1. Thanks for the advice. Point taken. That said, our location suits us pretty well. We chose it because we are close to just about anything we might need. We actually get a discount applied to our auto insurance because we drive so few miles per year. Wife and I have both seen seven decades go by. We are better off “bugging in”, come what may.

            We live in a cul-de-sac that T’s into the bottom end of a dead end street. One way in and out. Narrow field of fire. Easy intruder ID. Next door neighbor is a dedicated bachelor who built himself a small metal shop building a few years back. Among other skills, he has a welder and knows how to use it. Like the old saying goes, “It was a trap. There were two of them”.

    2. I’m not civilized enough to join Texas Gun Talk. It’s a site for nice people. Looked at it in the past but you’ve seen how a lot of us act here.

      I like aspects of your location but at my AO I’ve worried about mass waves of dindus and mestizos pouring out of south Dallas down IH 45 and if 2 AKs and 6000 rounds for them are enough.

      Shooter

      1. Are you implying that we are uncouth here?
        Well…we kinda are…ummm…yea, a shit load.
        But did you have to say it out loud?

  5. You folks are most welcome. The Sig debacle and debate “did” inspire this to some degree. I slowly, over about a week, commited it to text, then proof read the hell out of it to make sure it was accurate. Then shipped it off to our gracious host for his consideration.

    Something one of you kind folks might be able to help me with. I really don’t like to spam the site, but I often need to add a single sentence to a previous thought or some info I wasn’t aware of when I posted. I’m still feeling my way around Ye Olde Blegg and no matter how permissive I make my browser, which is usually in anti-social mode, the menu button does nothing. Right now I have to add an entire new post to add the tiny bit of info. It may not be possible to add to posts but if it is, I’d be grateful if someone could tell me how.

    Thanks in advance.

    Shooter

    P.S. Almost forgot 😛 A firearm must be designed properly and given maintenance to be and remain safe. See? That would have taken a whole new post. I should have put it in the safety article actually.

    1. “given maintenance to be and remain safe”

      That maintenance should be proper.
      Take the walker triggers in the Remington model 700s for instance. Lots of unexpected discharges but none from a properly maintained and adjusted trigger. Even though that trigger was recalled the US Army still uses it. Could Remington have built a safer trigger? Absolutely. Is the safer trigger they replaced it with as clean and crisp? Nope

      1. You have somewhat of a point Rooster. It definitely wasn’t as bad as Sigs recent P320 screwup. But the important part is: other rifles were treated the same and didn’t ND. Only Remingtons. Lotsa bad publicity. Remington has had other issues. My 700 in 06 was a 1984 gift from my brother. Split case necks with anyone’s ammo. My AK was more accurate at 100 yrds. Sent 2 cases to Remington and the letter back said “We think it’s safe and won’t fix it”. Sat in closets and got oiled once a year for 4.5 decades. Woulda gotten rid of it but it was a gift and I didn’t want to inflict it on someone else. Finally, 2.5 years ago, I hooked up with a custom riflesmith in Lucas. Which is a tiny burg surrounded by Plano and Allen. 1st time I met Curtis Helton he had a trunk full of heavy barrel 700 action for the US military for sniper rifles. Like 40 of them. He was kind enough to take my business and for 1400 bucks I got a 700 with a trued action, Shilen Select Match barrel, threaded muzzle with custom brake and Triggertech Primary zero creep trigger. It shoots 3/4 moa with Hornaday factory 150 gr. and is now not a closet queen.

        Shooter

          1. Oh. Btw. That 3/4 moa wasn’t “he took the best group and tossed the rest”. That was the average of five 3 shot groups, measured center to center of furthest spread with a dial caliper. The worst group was a bit over an moa. Best was half an moa. 5 mph fairly steady wind from the left. I’m quite pleased. With properly worked up handloads, bug holes at 100 are a distinct possibility.

            Shooter

    2. I don’t think there’s a better way Russell. Gotta make separate posts.
      And I’ve always been militant about firearm safety rules, which means I’m never concerned about making a boo boo. Friend accused me of being afraid of bang bangs, but the opposite is true.

  8. Regarding rule #2 – saw this on one of the gun blogs, but: get 5 gal orange home depot buckets, fill them with sand, put on a lid and put a target on them where appropriate +write safe direction. Works like a military bullet trap and can use for dry fire as well as decocking/clearing guns.

    Re: rule #3, for da/sa guns in sa mode, I’ll transition my thumb to cocked hammer spur, which keeps my trigger finger off trigger by shifting it slightlt forward. Usually only do this with 22lr pistols I carry for varmints around the ranch where cocking sound would otherwise scatter them. May be a bad habit, but it does increase safety and is the inverse of holding hammer down while holstering. Ymmv.

    1. Should specify the 2nd half is for da/sa guns with only a decocker… if they had an sa safety I’d use that.

  9. All of my firearms save black powder live loaded. Many give the advice to clear and remove all ammo from the room for cleaning etc. I slightly disagree in that I keep the ready rounds in plain sight in front of me. I check capacity as a matter of habit, if that capacity is not fully visible in front of me it needs checked again until the number is correct. Then and only then do I do anything else. The Other rules still apply until the firearm is fully non-functional.
    It is a process that has become almost a religion. One nd in life, reloading rounds in the mag for next round at a home range. Somehow emptied mag but missed clearing an unfired round from the chamber. Point at sky… BANG. Not sure my velocity upward was slower than the bullet. The other folks sharing the shooting time never knew it was not intentional but I did.
    We were shooting about 1k a month but the result was my reloading of mags time on the tailgate doubled for a long, long time. I slowed down, there is no reason to hurry to shoot them up faster. Thanks for the valuable reminders that deadly mistakes are usually avoidable if you just follow the four.

    1. My arms are also all loaded. I use the exact same proceedure you do. I triple check semis and even revolvers visually but the ammo I removed is usually less than a foot from the firearm while I am breaking it down, cleaning it, etc. This also lets me eyeball the number of rounds I removed to ensure safety.

      My house is extremely dangerous for anyone not well versed in firearms. I don’t always carry indoors but I am never more than 3 steps/seconds from laying my hands on a firearm. If I leave the house, even when staying on the property, I lock the door if I might go somewhere I can’t visually see it. When leaving the property, the door is locked and the alarm system is on. I have two extra pistols in the locking gun vault bolted to my truck floor along with spare mags and speed strips. I’ve done everything I can to see that unauthorized or uneducated persons can’t touch my boomsticks. I need a security cabinet for the house but am so limited in space I don’t have room for any more long guns without getting rid of one first.

      Shooter

        1. I’m 30 minutes south of Dallas a bit south of Ferris. Little burg called Trumbull. We’ll have to hook up and chat someday before too long when it cools off a bit JJ.

          Shooter

        2. Gonna borrow Gun Doods bucket idea so I can shoot a bit more where I am. I have to be extremely careful, got neighbors a couple hundred yards away on each side. So mostly dry fire and holster/reloading drills right now.

          Planning to go to my son’s place in Athens Saturday, much easier to shoot there. Public range in Corsicana I may check out soon, Devin lives near there also, can shoot a bit there.
          Can’t drive in the Metroplex anymore, eye doctors said not to. Red Oak is about my northern limit on IH 35 and Lancaster or Hutchins on 45. Both of those are Indian country though.

          Shooter

  10. I’ve had only 2 ND in 60 yrs of busting caps. One was while using a 44 Navy while a councilor at a Scout camp. My bad as I did not properly grease the cylinder and had a chain fire on discharge at the target. The second occurred while unloading in the parking lot at the end of the day in deer season. Dropped the floor plate, 4 rounds on the open case, rifle fortunately pointed in a safe direction (downward at the tree next to my truck) rifle balanced in my right hand, and slid the safety off with my left thumb while my hand was above the action. The silence after the ND in the lot was only broken by one hunter’s question “Remington 600 or 700?” Yep Remington 700 I replied. Need I say more. Went back to the 30-30 when not in special reg Shotgun only zones.

    1. My 700 now has a Triggertech Primary installed in it. I never really trusted the factory trigger.

      Shooter

  11. Hi Billy,
    As for rule #3… I like the way “Kenny -Wire cutter” says it……
    ‘Keep yer’ ‘Booger Hooks’ off the ‘BANG Switch’ till you have target acquisition!!!!!!”
    I seem to remember him sayin’ something like that somewhere on his blog back when!!
    Audentes fortuna, Iuvat!!!,
    III%,
    skybill

    1. Haha! Good one. 1st heard that back in the 90s, had a roomate who had been a leg in the Harmy in Nam. His DI bitched his squad out after one of the city boys had an ND on the range. “Keep your booger hook off of the bang switch until you are on target! Thanks to dumbass here, you ladies get to do a fun run tomorrow. Full rucks!”

      Shooter

  12. 2 ND’s both while drunk.
    First one heard a noise behind back door, walked to it with 1911 pointed downwards parallel to my leg when I activated the trigger. due to ingrained proper holding techniques missed the leg by inches.
    2nd one even more stupid: drunk 4th of July, walking out entry steps with mini 14 loaded with tracers, weapon pointed skyward when I activated the trigger. I will absolutely not pick up a gun after drinking now.

    1. 3rd ND
      Made the mistake of letting a guy pick up my loaded shotgun ASSUMING he knew gun safety. He picked up the shotgun, pulled the hammer back, pointed it near my feet and pulled the trigger. Several pellets in my cowboy boots but no injury. Never let anyone handle your loaded gun.

      1. Both posts raise very good points, Joey. Back when I still drank, I would carry BUT I would not handle the firearm.

        I also don’t hand a loaded firearm to anyone other than trusted friends whose firearm habits are known to me. This is maybe 8 people in the whole world? If I’m not sure, I unload and triple check the gun “before” I let them look at it.

        Shooter

  13. i’ve never had a ND myself but witnessed one a couple of feet away. my nephew had my AK and thought he knew how to handle one…. the look on his face was terror and disbelief. the look on my face was fucking anger and disgust… never let him touch it again. the closet i have been to a ND is when shooting my .44 mag one handed, the unexpected kick lifted the barrel and having my finger still on the trigger caused it to fire again on the rise- oh boy, too close to my face and top of my head for comfort.. two hands boys and girls- two hands. that said, a buddy with the 82nd was killed down in Grenada- Operation ‘Ugent Fury’ by his buddy while cleaning weapons. oh, i keep all firearms loaded in my home. what fucking good is it in the split second chance to defend oneself if it isn’t?

    1. My brother likes 44s Tfat. Has a Super Blackhawk and a Redhawk. I’ve found that the .44 Magnum is about my limit in a firearm, even two handing it. I gave him Pachmayer grips to replace the wooden ones on the Super Blackhawk and it is much more controllable now. Still comes up pointed at an 80 degree angle when I fire it. Kind of scared to shoot the Redhawk, it’s double action. He’s got a sweet Rossi .44 lever action that is mild to shoot and horribly accurate, love that rifle. My Rossi is .357/38 to avoid having to stock ammo for a single weapon.

      I’m 5′ 6″ not 6’+ omg he’s a Big Fracking Man like BC. I look normal holding an AK, not like it’s a BB gun.

      Shooter

  14. I admit NOTHING!
    I deny EVERYTHING!
    It was YOUR FAULT!
    Quickly, nervously looking around…

    1. Cmon Tree Mike, you can tell us, we’re your bestest buds in the whole world. You’ll feel “so” much better after you get it off your chest. Like you are riding a unicorn on fluffy clouds. I’d hate to see this keep gnawing away at your soul.

      And we won’t tell your Feebie co-workers, they’ve probably done worse anyway. Pinkie swear we won’t.

      Shooter

      1. Well, R in N T, there was that one time in 1984 when I had just cleaned and reloaded my 18″ Mossberg 500, somethingsomethingsomething, picked it up and shot the edge of my wifes layout, pattern table…SHIT!!!, that was not the dry fire click I anticipated! Fortunately, it was 2 inch thick hardwood and I hit it square, with double aught, from 4 feet away, in the living room, with our Doberman sleeping right under it and the wife in the kitchen. There may have been an adult beverage involved. 40 years later (we’re still together), THAT’S not forgotten and bairly forgiven.
        It wasn’t my fault, it was somethingsomethingsomethingmumble.
        Thanks fer keeping this on the down low. The Feebies, on the other hand, now have trans dimensional/time quantum bullshit access to all, so they know everything. They just don’t have the resources to worry about very much of it, plus, they know I’m just a loud mouthed schnook.

        1. Bless you my son. Now say 12 Herbert Hoovers and instigate 5 crimes you can hand in to be easily solved and you are absolved. Wives are so lacking in understanding. That is why your penance is so light. Now go forth and sin no more. (pins a good conduct medal to your shirt).

          Shooter

  15. This happened to me about 10-15 years ago. Was cleaning my pistol after a range session out in the garage on the workbench. I was about finished up and the neighbor stopped by to shoot the breeze. Went about cycling the action a few times dry while talking to him. As I was doing this I inserted what I thought was an empty mag. (If I had just told him to wait a minute while I finished up, this would not have been an issue). I racked the slide, which should have locked open. (I do this after cleaning to confirm proper operation…anal, I know. Since I was talking to him, I did not realize I had grabbed a full magazine. I pointed the pistol down and pulled the trigger. Talk about a loud surprise! Pocked my garage floor, but no injuries since I followed #2. Lesson learned: 1. No loaded magazines in the area of cleaning 2. No distractions allowed while cleaning.

  16. Extractors do fail to extract sometimes. I take my pinky finger and stick it in the chamber area to verify that no round remains when clearing pistols. Yeah, you might get an owie from it if the slide closes, but that will heal. Unplanned ventilation may not.

    1. The ‘manual chamber check’ was part of the safety procedure used at a now defunct training facility where I took a 1 day Full Auto UZI class – oh so many years ago. First, open the bolt, then use a pinky in the chamber and then finger(s) into the mag well to verify no ammo in the weapon. The manual chamber check is particularly important with the UZI because it shoots from an open bolt. Until BOTH of these tests passed, the weapon was to be considered loaded. Both had to be done whenever the weapon was picked up, even if it was you who’d just set it down. In the several years the class was offered and *many* students that took that class – I don’t ever recall a ND happening, and CERTAINLY not from a “I didn’t know it was loaded!” mistake.

  17. Had a 1st gen Taurus .357 Thunderbolt(pump-action rifle – copy of the Colt Lighting rifles). Discovered the hard way the only way to empty the tube magazine(12 rds) was to cycle the action. Soooo pump the action, which loads the chamber, c.a.r.e.f.u.l.l.y. lower the hammer and cycle the action again.
    And if your thumb accidently slips off the hammer too soon(OH, SHIT!!!) you have a new hole in your ceiling and roof and thankfully NOT in the wall of the neighbor’s house because at least you had the brains to have the barrel pointed up. The only good part there was that the wife wasn’t in the house at the time. Still have that learning tool in the collection.

  18. 54 years of firearms handling and never had a ND. But, I know plenty who have. Even know one guy whose Colt SAA fell out of the holster when he got into the passenger side of a (60’s make) pickup after opening a gate. It landed on the hammer spur and if he had only loaded 5 instead of 6, he wouldn’t have a scar on his ass cheek and another one on the top of his shoulder where the bullet exited and then bounced around the cab of the pickup, fortunately not hitting anyone else.

    1. Yeah, I keep a dollar bill stuffed in one chamber of my SAAs. Hammer is resting there.

      By the way if anyone wants to reach me for any reason, such as locals like JJ or RHT, or if you aren’t local and just had a thought or question or wanted to tell me to quit spamming the board, eberwhar@tutanota.com.

      Douchenozzle, I mean Coyote, will only get to bother me once before I send him to spam hell. Then he can go back to trying to figure out who his dad is while he sits in mommy’s basement.

  19. For all the shit the Sig P320 (most of which should fall on the company PR people for being a bunch of idiots, IMHO) is getting, there are definitely worse pistols out there. For instance, anyone happen to remember the Vektor CP1?

  20. Did some checking on my new AO. Used 2020 Census numbers which way overcounted dindus and latinos and undercounted Whyttes. As a for instance, I personally was never counted in the Texas Census. Allowing over and under counting, Athens is probably 65 to 75 percent Whytte and Henderson county in general is probably90 to 95 percent Whytte. I’ll post specific numbers later on.

    Shooter

  21. Going to leave some details on the new AO later. Busy morning, nap time now

    Shooter

  22. Dire consequences ND, member of our local DU chapter lost control, dropped or mishandled his Glock while getting out of his truck. No body knows for sure but DRT. Nice guy, grew up around guns and shooting, my age (point of getting old). Drove past his families country place yesterday, still hurts.

    Spin

  23. When I was 8 my dad was showing me his Astra PPK copy, and told me he was sure ‘red’ on the safety meant “safe”. To prove it he pointed the gun at the ceiling and pulled the trigger. Bang.
    Then he got up, put the gun in his pocket and said he had to go, and I should fix that before my mom came home, lol. It was right over their bed. I stuffed the hole with a paper towel and slapped some putty on it. She never knew it happened, or she would have flipped.
    Good times.

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