{"id":9249,"date":"2026-04-11T00:19:31","date_gmt":"2026-04-11T00:19:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/?p=9249"},"modified":"2026-04-11T00:19:31","modified_gmt":"2026-04-11T00:19:31","slug":"the-build-itself-or-more-fun-with-belt-fed-guns-in-the-sun-as-god-intended","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/2026\/04\/11\/the-build-itself-or-more-fun-with-belt-fed-guns-in-the-sun-as-god-intended\/","title":{"rendered":"The Build Itself or More Fun With Belt Fed Guns In The Sun, As God Intended."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Greetings and Salutations!<br>OK<br>First off, I&#8217;m waiting for my upper.  It has\/had an 8 week lead time to a <strong>16 week<\/strong> lead time in a worst case scenario.  I was willing to chance it, as&#8230; I dunno&#8230;  as reader Jay Dee commented &#8220;investing in functional metals.&#8221; is a <strong>perfect description<\/strong> of what I did.<br><br>So I figured I&#8217;d break it down like Barney so y&#8217;all can see what I&#8217;ve gone with.  I do have to say that this&#8217;s <strong>the most expensive build <\/strong>I&#8217;ve ever done hands down.  I thought the $2200 for the National Match M21\/M1A was pricey&#8230;<br><br>Whoo-wee!  I knew not of what I was getting into.<br><br>Now&#8230; firstly, when I started this project, I knew it&#8217;d be spendy.  Most good\/great toys are.  When I initially went to the Lima Six website, almost <strong>everything<\/strong> was sold out.  Like nada-nichts-neinte.  I signed up for the &#8220;Notify Me&#8221; when back in stock, and let it go.  That was mid January.<br><br>Mid February, I got notification that a bunch of the cool kid stuff was back in stock.  One of the things was a $99 buffer and tube kit.  I bought it, as I figured this would mentally &#8216;lock me in&#8217; as it was the correct tube and buffer weight for the Lima Six upper.<br><br>Sure, I could have probably gotten it cheaper piecemeal, but I wanted to know I had gotten the name-brand so to speak <strong>exact right<\/strong> tube, spring and buffer, even if it was <em>slightly<\/em> overpriced&#8230;  It&#8217;s a &#8216;my mental thing&#8217; so you&#8217;d have to be inside my head to &#8216;get it&#8217;.  It meant I had <strong>committed building this fucker.<\/strong><br><br>And Lo and Behold.<br>I managed to &#8216;choose wisely&#8217; in the Silver Market, and liquidated at a price that made me happy, and also allowed me to buy the upper, completed, with the Inconel gas tube, which according to my intel, a high-strength, corrosion-resistant nickel-chromium superalloy\u00a0which for a Belt Fed is a great choice I&#8217;m thinking.  It raised the price to $3074.98.  Call it with shipping $3100.00 roughly.<br><br>Then came the lower.<br><br>Now, this thing can clip onto ANY AR lower, which gives it it&#8217;s appeal.  Turn any baseline AR into a belt-fed Squad Automatic Weapon&#8230; what&#8217;s not to love?<br><br>Well&#8230; my own research made me realize I didn&#8217;t like the distance the ammo bag\/box would have using the standard adapter.  The adapter:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"660\" height=\"541\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/adap.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9251\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/adap.jpg 660w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/adap-300x246.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">gets inserted into the magwell, and then the ammo bag\/box adapter clips onto the bottom of that:<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"480\" height=\"326\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/longdrop.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/longdrop.jpg 480w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/longdrop-300x204.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 85vw, 480px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Now, to me?<br><br>That&#8217;s quite a distance for the belt to travel.  This (to me) is a bit far&#8230; lots of chances to snag the belt or allow shit to get in there as if one is &#8216;running and gunning as opposed to a situational dug-in defense&#8230; <br><br>That happened one time during a CALFEX where we were running through the woods, and when I ran through some particularly thick brush, the branches &#8216;grabbed&#8217; my ammunition belt, pulling it out of the box&#8230;  the belt didn&#8217;t snap but a bunch of the rounds got all fucked up, and I had to re-align them to make sure I didn&#8217;t have a jam, as well as re-stuff them into the box.<br><br>That took time to fix.<br><br>Plus, the adapter is 3-D printed.<br>I&#8217;m all for 3-D printing, but I know that the PLA does have long term issues with use, UV breakdown and the like.  Granted that Lima uses SLS Nylon, I&#8217;m still very wary.<br><br>So&#8230; because of this, I started researching.<br>And found a Lower <em><strong>specifically designed for Belt Fed ARs<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"581\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower-1024x581.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9252\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower-1024x581.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower-768x436.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower-1200x681.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/bwlower.jpg 1534w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Link to it is <a href=\"https:\/\/blackwidowfirearms.com\/purpose-built-ar-15-belt-fed-100-lower-receiver-bfar\/\">HERE<\/a><br>Yeah<br>A bit pricey&#8230; but hey, If you&#8217;re going to go Retard with Weapons, <strong>You Always Go Full Retard.<\/strong><br><br>Now&#8230; this was originally made for the FlightLite MCR series of belt-fed uppers.  Thing is, the MCR STARTING PRICE is a grand more, with the higher end models starting at $7000.00!!!  Like Holy FUCK!!!<br><br>Considering a military contract FN SAW costs only $4100?<br><br>Yeeeeeah&#8230; porking the consumer IMO.<br>ESPECIALLY that the reviews on the MCRs in general are VERY metsoo-metz.  Lots of complaints about tuning it, lots of complaints that the belt has to be practically soaked in CLP&#8230;  <br>Yeah&#8230; to an old SAW Gunner like myself?<br>Hard Pass<br>Even if I had &#8220;Fuck You&#8221; Money.<br><br>So&#8230;<br>I got the Black Widow lower, as well as an adapter <em><strong>specifically designed to move the ammo box\/bag<\/strong><\/em> to it&#8217;s &#8216;proper feeding&#8217; location.  Seems the MCR (which the BFAR was designed for) has a different feed distance and angle.  That adapter moves the ammo forward about 1\/2 an inch, which allows the Lima Six to feed without having a minor &#8216;twist&#8217; in the belt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"562\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc-1024x562.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc-1024x562.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc-300x165.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc-768x421.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc-1200x658.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/inoc.jpg 1535w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">When installed, well&#8230; it works beuatifully.<br>And so here&#8217;s the Reveal:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9254\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164633-1200x900.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">I went with a Tapco SAW Grip.  Tapco got bought out back in 2021, and most of their &#8216;stuff&#8217; is now just a memory.  This one is the real deal that I found from a guy on Reddit.  Link is <a href=\"https:\/\/pmarmory.com\/#fd0d\/embedded\/m=and&amp;q=tapco\">HERE<\/a>.  <br><br>He apparently has black AND tan CAGE stamped genuine SAW grips, as you can see on mine.  The SAW grip is a chonky-boi compared to other grips, which allows big pawed dudes like me to rock on a SAW or equivalent.  Love me that grip IMO.<br><br>The Adapter for the nutsack, when installed looks like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9255\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164543-1200x900.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">It slides in, and locks in with a set-screw, which I squirted with some Locktite 222 as I don&#8217;t want it coming loose.  The trigger assembly is a standard AR until I can figure out the FRT side of things, as the legality here in Florida is retarded.  I&#8217;m also waiting on the bolt catch\/release as you need one that will fit, as the upper sticks out over the edge of the lower, so a standard paddle release gets in the way and needs to be either cut, or in this case, a proper flatter longer turned release is installed.<br><br>Without the nutsack attached (that BTW is a 200 round DotMil Issued bag, $150.00 retail) looks like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/IMG20260410164535-1200x900.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">The rear stock is the <strong>highly adjustable<\/strong> Magpul LRS.<br><br>Adjustable comb, as well as length and even the recoil pad is adjustable.  My only complaint about it is that it doesn&#8217;t come with instructions, so I had to youtube the vidya to get the intel for installation and function.  $99.00 on ar15discounts dot com.<br><br>Add on the 1500 in M27 links, the ammo and whatnot &#8216;stuff&#8217; like a <strong>good<\/strong> bipod (which is an absolute necessity) that&#8217;ll eventually get added, it&#8217;ll break the $4500 level in the end.<br><br>Which I&#8217;m comfortable with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">So that&#8217;s my night.<br>Hope everyone else is cool.<br><br>More Later<br>Big Country<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"952\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/lold.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9257\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/lold.webp 952w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/lold-300x158.webp 300w, https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/lold-768x403.webp 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><br><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings and Salutations!OKFirst off, I&#8217;m waiting for my upper. It has\/had an 8 week lead time to a 16 week lead time in a worst case scenario. I was willing to chance it, as&#8230; I dunno&#8230; as reader Jay Dee commented &#8220;investing in functional metals.&#8221; is a perfect description of what I did. So I &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/2026\/04\/11\/the-build-itself-or-more-fun-with-belt-fed-guns-in-the-sun-as-god-intended\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Build Itself or More Fun With Belt Fed Guns In The Sun, As God Intended.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9249","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9249","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9249"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9249\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9258,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9249\/revisions\/9258"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9249"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9249"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigcountryexpat.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9249"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}